Andy
What’s up guys welcome back to another episode of marijuana sa weekly and today we’re going to be talking to you a little bit about what the costs are involved on a bigger group. For those that listened last week you would have found out what it costs to grow in a Nakama a tent with a few small number of plants to plant system. This week we are going to up that but before we start we have a little bit of a clarification error from last week Dean Do you want to clarify we may be spotted that we will see

Dean
so guys the prepping before that last time there was my mathematics was slightly off I do just want to disclaim that I made the whole presentation then I forgot to put the running costs and then just before we went live I crunched the running costs quickly and I forgot to turn what’s two kilowatts. So it was basically I got the math slightly wrong, I must say so we’re back this Friday to redeem ourselves.

Andy
I think the running costs on that loss I mean we both made the mistake I didn’t spot it at all it just sonars for for letting that one slip through. So it

Dean
would seem expensive to me. It didn’t seem expensive to me when we were talking through it but at that point I was

Andy
like alright, isn’t that real up and conservative?

Dean
I was like maybe if you’re living in some way Yeah, but like it’s a it was a grave error and someone did pick it up on the I did pick it up I was hoping it would slide and then Saturday morning it was there someone commenting saying that obviously we had made a mistake. So we do just want to disclaim that we did make a mistake and ants now a second episode, we will be looking at a slightly larger, larger system. So yeah, maybe it was a blessing in disguise because now we get to kill two birds with one stone. Yeah,

Andy
let’s jump into the pres.

Dean
Okay, cool. So guys, I’ve adapted my presentation from last week. And now we today are going to be looking at a slightly larger system. Just to summarise, for those of you who didn’t watch the other episode. Basically, what we’re wanting to do today is looking at how you’re not growing as an as a numbers game or an investment over looking at as an expense, you know, you’re purchasing a lot of the time the entrance cost into a system is a factor or factoid that people kind of get scared away by. But if you really look at it in a logical, you know, logical terms, that kind of changes completely around, and then you start to see it as an investment. Because if you’re no longer spending money on bad, then you’re technically saving money. And if you’re producing it yourself, you’re getting way more out of it, you know, in the in the long run. So

Andy
if we were to go into a legal market as well, this, this would be the same numbers you would cry crank, you know, like, hypothetically should you work where you’d ever get into a situation where you could sell it legally.

Dean
So basically, today we are looking at a system that was 1800 Watts, and the 1800 watt system is going to be constituted of two lumii were 720 Watt, Sue’s two Lumia 720 watt LEDs, one inline fan, which is an eight i h i t 200 millimetre inline fan, and then eight oscillating fans, which all have a wardrobe of around 19 watts. So that’s into the total of the system, we’re doing an organic system, and that organic system is being watered by a blue mat system. So this is an automated watering system. And all of these mathematics are done around the calculation of being able to fit 18 lawns into a 2.4 by one comma two metre grow tent by two metres high. So it’s basically like a high density stack on a 2.4 Grow Tent. And if I’m going for organics, or suggesting a system like this to someone, that’s kind of where I aim for, because we’re looking at slightly larger pots where the plants can really express themselves. So it’s yeah, it’s a really upper end system. You know, it’s for someone who wants to take the intermediate growing more serious, and someone who started to move towards you know, what, wanting to really maximise what they are able to what they are able to produce. So a system like that, you know, with everything that you’re going to need to run it, I will just say there’s no dehumidifier in this the system, there’s no backup power in the system. So those are two things you could look at, but you’re looking at plus minus 34 to 35,000 for a system like that. Like I said, you’re drawing around 1800 Watts, and your running costs on something like that is going to be 2500 Rand per month. So

Andy
faladi pricing as well, you could probably get a cheaper system was sort of conventional lights, but then your running costs are going to be a little bit higher. So we just base this one on LEDs.

Dean
Yes, exactly. And specifically on the lumii, black LED, which is one of the sort of cheap, the cheapest one in the market. You know, if you wanted to go for something a little bit more more high end and well tested, you’re probably looking close in the region of around 40 41,000. But that being said, the numbers still are really, really decent when you start to break everything down. So we like to have a look at our, we’d like to have a look at our expected yield, I really don’t like to, to, you know, often we when we’re working with a client, we really like to sort of be be quite on the lower end with this number. But I would say most people who are running a system like this are going to be able to pretty easily produce around 1000 grammes or one kilogramme of product per harvest grand, that’s, that’s where it’s like, wow, all of a sudden, you’ve got a lot of a lot of value, you know, then if that product were per se to be in a in a recreational point of view, now all of a sudden, you’re looking at around 100,000 Rand at 100 per per harvest. So I mean, in our current market, it’s more going to be the guys who are potentially you know, maybe working in like a social club kind of environment or who are extracting they’re going to need numbers like this. But to turn to turn around to turn a system like this around, it’s pretty quick and I mean, you you can be looking at for months per harvest potentially on an on an organic system three months, you know, three to four months and slightly longer times and that store I mean in your in your first grow, you potentially have nearly double what you what you would have put into into the system value wise and that’s going to be you know, you’ll be able to be rarely look rarely deeper joypad pick only the best trim rarely heavily, you know, utilise the maximum amount of your trim, so you’re getting so much out of putting into a system like this. I must just say though, for those of you who are looking at this, you know, a lot of work goes into compared to the two plants system, which we looked at last week, a lot of extra work is going to go into into running a system like this. So there’s a lot of time effort and things like that that you also have to account for. And then also I do want to say the the sort of running costs of the system is you’re getting far more out of a slightly larger system because you only you know you’re not you’re not having a heavily powered fan for only one or two plants. Now all of a sudden there’s a lot of plants in it, you know, the lights are maximising the space coming in at a really good cost. And those lights are are most LEDs both the code LEDs are carrying like a really good couple of year warranty. So you know the system technically should be able to run as is with no upgrades for around five years, you might need to replace like the hybrid metre and the pH pens and the timer here and there if you have a search but besides that the main equipment is going to it’s going to really do the do the distance and that for me makes it makes it worth it you know?

Andy
Yeah, and I think I mean this is also you have that time efficiency as well because say you’re going to spend a day you know, you’ve got to allocate 1015 minutes to nurturing your plants every day. But now if there’s just two plants you still have to stop you know get ready wash your hands get ready for like preparations or whatever you’re going to do for just like say you prepare preparing a feed you select it prepare it for two plans now you’re just preparing it for 18 plants and it’s not much more time you’ve already you already committed the time daily you’ve already committed to go and look at it so you get a bit more time efficiency in it from it as well. Same as buying Knudson bulk same was buying soil in bulk a lot of the stuff the bigger fans are generally a bit cheaper. So yeah, efficiencies as well. You get and then also want to add I mean, even I mean 100 Rand if it’s like you know like a b2c is theoretical situation even at worst you know, so if you if it goes down to like 65 or 50 years still you only have to pay off the system once and your running costs and then you have a university to cycles till it’s paid off. I mean even that’s it’s it’s ridiculous

Dean
insane you don’t see any other investment like that.

Andy
You know, it’s it’s it says it you know, I would say even at a low cost, you know, even if you want to be really conservative, and you can still make it you No, say you put it at 50 per gramme, and you only get seven 800 grammes yield. And you know, your costs are sort of the same universe saw with two and a half grows, maybe you were looking at and you know, then it’s so yeah, even then it’s you know, you’re, you’re looking at a year, maybe add a month or two. So yeah, guys, it’s a good, it’s a good value.

Dean
But that being said, it’s remains unfortunately, illegal to sell flour. So we’re not saying that, this year, that’s what you should go into with the system. But at the end of the day, the savings speak for themselves. And also, I do just want to mention, the skills development that you’re going to gain from this a couple years from now is definitely also an investment, you know, you’re investing into something that will show returns, but then the time and skills you develop the time put in develop skills, and then that in the long run is going to be even more valuable, you’re going to, you know, learning to take on larger systems and get better. And things like that is, is kind of the route of progression, you know. So I would say this is more intermediate to mildly advanced kind of system. But once it’s all running and you understand the equipment, it’s actually really easy to keep to keep going.

Andy
If you guys want to hear a little bit more about how to start a private club, for instance, check out our other videos on our YouTube channel. We also released a video recently about growing as a like understanding how to set up your growth or whether you’re growing at for your endpoints understanding how the implementation of your growth for the endpoint. And as with regards to you know, whether you’re growing for hemp or whether you’re going for extract or whether you’re growing for flour, all of those fall through and that was with Jeff and that’s also a really good piece of knowledge. So you guys are listening, head over to our YouTube channel or Spotify, or any other podcast app and you can listen to our episodes there. And until next week, much love Namaste. Peace, peace, guys.