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Andy
Hey guys, welcome back. We’re going to be doing a video today on myself and Dean’s predictions for cannabis in 2023. We’ve got some really cool things for you guys lined up. So hopefully you guys enjoy and let’s go jump in what do you rate is going to happen next year for Canada? I’m sure you’ve got some pretty interesting insights.

Dean
So 2023 is around the corner. We’ve made it through another year of cannabis in South Africa with very little happening. So, you know, promises were made for over a year actually. Yeah, it was it was it’s been it’s felt like every post decriminalisation, there’s just been like more of a stagnation. Obviously, there was also like, COVID-19, which I think, you know, I sometimes think to myself, like how big of a priority is cannabis to the government when you can’t even keep the power on in South Africa you’re dealing with like the worst loadshedding we’ve ever had, according to Escom, so pushes, little wrapped that I saw, it’s like 200% Worse than last year. So like, what is 2023 gonna bring for indoor growers, I would say challenges. You know, so I’m finding the most challenges I’ve ever faced now are right now with with my personal homegrown cultivation, you know, stage six, we’re stressing out constantly. So think indoor growing. Once that, you know, I think indoor growing on the on the home level is going to present a new set of new challenges, it just basically makes it more expensive to get into, unfortunately, but, you know, once you’ve, I think there will see a big push towards a lot of people sort of wanting to go off grid, if they can afford it, or saving towards going off grid. You know, it’s something that I would personally like to do in the space. I think the, you know, on the home level challenges indoors, we’re obviously continue to cultivate as much as we can in the couple months we have in the summer period, so that we can potentially make it through through without, but I think on the legislation side, you know, promises were made by praise of the President that they would start looking at it, it’s been some movement, but I feel not really that much. So I think another year, more difficulties, more expansive. Powers aren’t I think maybe the government is finally going to wake up to that this cash to be made here on their level and hopefully, start to pump you know, a little bit of I mean, if you look at the legal states in America, they made like millions of dollars in tax revenue overnight, you can just Google that to see has that information you don’t need like an inter governmental study to see that there’s money to be made here. You know,

Andy
people are devils, devils reefer and, you know, going absolutely crazy and, and doing all sorts of heinous things to family members and stuff like that, you know, the propaganda that they do of cannabis is legal that the drug dealers and stuff are gonna be out of control. And so it’s dude, it’s like a calm and peaceful market, though, actually, to be fair, and it was a vice documentary The other night about how the black market for cannabis in Cali is bigger three times bigger now than the legal market for some time, don’t quote me on and I

Dean
also see some crazy stuff related to like these, like illegal forms where people are like, getting forced to live in there and kellisa legal industry does. But it’s

Andy
not a legal industry yet, what is the legal industry, but it’s over regulated. And it’s only geared at the guys that have the millions and billions to pay for all that compliance. They all want to be legal. And it’s all the same product at the end of the day that’s reaching the shelves, like you know, people are so smoking, whether wherever it comes from this is they’re not rolling over and dying. They most of the time they find it’s just they overregulated because they don’t want to let go of that control. And there’s no going back, there’s no way that you make it legal. And then make it not legal, but that would be impossible. I mean, it’s already there.

Dean
It’s already happened once

Andy
again, they’re already gonna keep up with with policing cannabis. It’s, you know, it’s a vigorous Fagin waste of time.

Dean
In South Africa, that’s that’s a big case as well, there’s still the sort of push towards, you know, the government wanting to heavily police, plant counts, rulers, the we don’t have the manpower to do that. We can’t even keep the power on or keep like our train tracks safe to get like transport around how you going to police like everyone who wants to cultivate things like in the South African landscape. We have legacy farmers, we have an industry that’s already reliant on it. And I think the professionalise, I think, you know, if they were to push for a market to take place in South Africa, the same as what Jeff was saying, on our previous episode, you know, like a market, a market, a market could open up the possibility for us to really make something of this industry, but like, we can’t survive much longer or gain investment or, you know, keep this the way it keep the industry going in the way that it currently is. There’s too much grey area, there’s like too much wild wasting, there’s like, no, there’s policing but it’s like you is getting police like it’s like, you know, there’s just too many other issues within South Africa. I’ve personally feel, too because we are heavily regulated. It’s a messy space. You can’t everything’s like, you don’t even like people don’t really know what they’re doing. People are getting arrested, people aren’t getting arrested, you are getting pulled over and they weed still getting taken away from them. Like what is happening, you know,

Andy
two years ago is it we wanted to jump in, we want to jump into the cannabis space. And I was like, Oh, it’s just sexy space to be in like such a good, you know, exciting, revolutionary, you know, wow, you know, the government’s just made cannabis growing legal knowledge base, it was like, you know, it was like, everyone was enamoured with it. Now you look at the cannabis space, and you’re like, government’s actually done jack shit since then, you know, there’s more proposed laws, which are like, absolutely ridiculous. It’s absolutely everyone’s saturated around this, like, you know, like the, the, the club models the section 12 or, you know, lecture 2121 stuff. It’s, you know, it’s just all these like, weird loopholes. I got weird, quick, like, it wasn’t like this, like, everyone’s gonna be irate. And there’s gonna be dispensaries opening up. It just got weird and technical and yeah, quite quite, quite crazy. And I think we’d like what you said, going on what you were saying with the electricity problems, the train tracks, the, you know, the all the strikes and stuff like that. It’s going to be their number one priority.

Dean
Still not know. I don’t think it’s ever I don’t think I think we have you know,

Andy
they should just like they just gonna be like, can’t win. Yeah, because they’re the field

Dean
has been is going back to court. They won’t be legalisation. You know, we want a recreational or adult use industry within South Africa. So, the ease I think, if the government can’t put the effort into it, why not, you know, listen to people who have come up with valuable plans, I mean, the, the fields of green store as a powerful manifester that’s relevant in order it with the, with the South African landscape, why not, instead of like spending government resources so heavily, you know, into, like, people who don’t even know what’s going on, you know, in trying to get like a private medical company to Okay, and not okay, like, it doesn’t really make sense. You know, that’s just selling it off to the highest bidder. And it’s going to create a Cali style environment, like, the black market is more professional than ever, like, you know, the stuff you’re seeing coming out in the black market is, is insane. So, South Africa is on that world class level, it’s just like, either the black market continues to grow, which it is going to, and then the government gets nothing. Or they could just have a piece of that pie so easily. And you can look at other countries around the world to see that it’s not going to destroy society. It’s not going to be like burning bridges. And like, you know, it’s worship and stuff. It’s just normal people who like a plant that’s good for you. And

Andy
you think the government’s know what was cooking and then like, and then you see Bali do a move where they ban premarital sex for like, anyone? Yeah, for anyone in Bali, like and it’s just a sec, how can you do that in 20?

Andy
it’s near impossible to police. Because like, how are they going to prove this? And and what are you gonna do to have like a camera in your bedrooms and you can’t

Dean
get any like a marriage certificate to travel there. If it’s like a male and a female?

Andy
That’s thinking like, they never gonna Legalise Cannabis, if they can’t even get past, you know, past a, you know, basic sort of, I don’t know, basic sort of things that the first world countries are way ahead of, you know, that’s been all those sort of very old fashioned rules and things that goes along on in, in, in first world countries. So yeah, like, you know, you see, the government’s don’t always know what’s cooking.

Dean
They definitely not sterile. The

Andy
problem is that 130,000 jobs in Feb last year, and he’s gonna have to say something, a test or something of that he’s probably going to do one of these things that we’re all looking for these medical facilities hiring, you know what,

Dean
Cyril is not around like Cyril is caught in the biggest scandal many hidden in couches like the case, you know, like Cyril, if Searle is no longer the man on top, this whole reshuffle of leadership once again, everything is kicked back because like no one can keep like in the like away from scandals and corruption. So like it kind of just like pushes the dollar further and further down the agenda. But I suppose also, you know, if like, the community keeps pushing things,

Andy
as you see we can easily be pretty negative on it. Really? Yeah, I can see where you’re going with that. Because I was just thinking no like thing.

Dean
It’s up to us to to professionalise ourselves and to keep and that’s also why once again, I kind of like some of the things that the people are doing within the industry. You know, we are people are taking matters into their own hands and trying to create movements and trying to create manifestos and trying to create so like you notes, I think there’s a lot of negative points on on. There are a lot of negative points, but that I’m not negative. I mean, I’m still fully confident this industry can become something massive. And that’s why, you know, it’s important to talk about these points, because these are the challenges that we’re currently facing, you know, like, we need these things, and someone needs to do them, and it’s the government who has to, but like, we also need to, we also need to continue to make our voices heard as citizens, like, there was some cool movements, you know, there was the mass gathering, which I thought was relatively successful. But I mean, at Cape Town, I would have expected to see 1000s of people there, you know, not a couple 100 Because like, they say, 1000s of people, nothing happened, nothing happened. But like, you know, those, those kinds of things are still important. And like, I think going to court if people have the finances is going to be the only way that this has kind of gets off. So like, a lot relies on the fields of greens trial of the plan to a lot relies on the haze court appeals. Yeah, you know, a lot of players on the left the labour, there was a, you know, there was another big court case happening in labour like all of those years, I think it’s going to be the courts that decide this

Andy
is a difficult time, but I’m going to jump in with my my formal prediction. So you guys can quote me on this come one year’s time from now or whatnot. But I do believe that, you know, we’re going to see more clubs opening up, we’re going to see more section 20 ones, we’re gonna see more cannabis in the hands of people through more like reputable sources, as opposed to just like, you know, parking lot trades and this and that, I think it’s going to be more like, however they operating the you know, the clubs, I think it’s going to it’s going to come from here, we’re going to see more and more of that, which is going to be a good thing. Because the more and more of that, that we see in a controlled and self regulated space. That’s not a disaster. And that’s not actually causing any harm. I think that’s gonna lead to more people trusting edit, and you know, you’re gonna you’re gonna end up seeing politicians at these clubs and things like that, enjoying themselves and enjoying cannabis. So yeah, it’s a good trend. I was think there’s gonna be obviously the concentrates and extracts you can see we obviously been pushing that quite a bit from our side. But I think there’s going to be a massive open up on that. I also think that like a little bit on the House side of cannabis, I think people are going to maybe move away from Yeah, I suppose in the extract space, but I think they’re going to become a little bit more particular with regards to getting like particles and things like that in the lungs and stuff like that. As you know, there’s more Yeah, they’re going to go more for like extracts where there’s like plant material being like actually combusted, it’s going to be more like vaporised and things like that. So I kind of think that’s, that’s where I’m, that’s, that’s basically the predictions. I don’t think there’ll be massive legalisation. Unfortunately, I think maybe some countries around Thailand and stuff might legalise but anyway related to South Africa that that’s my bets. Where are you leaning in?

Dean
So I’ve heavily agree on the extract sides of things, I think we’re going to see a lot of people, there’s already been a massive push in that direction, from us and just from the market, you know, we look at trends the whole time. So I’m really excited about about that. Also, you know, personally as an extractor getting getting a bit of sort of recognition within this year, as the as the brand, I think we can continue to see more more in that direction. I think we’re also going to see some interesting growth, innovation, like, you know, for learnings for us in this year, there was a lot of automation and a lot of integration starting to use data more heavily. So I think we’re going to start to sort of see bigger trends towards data, you know, health data, like Andy was saying, with people wanting to get particles but also grow data, the way to professionalise that, you know, farming is highly challenging. In Canada, cannabis farming is a way of farming. So like, like just professionalising ourselves as a whole in in the growth space, I think we’re going to see, I think we’re gonna see way more commercial farms coming online if that’s a positive or negative thing right now, you know, in the current format, I’m not sure I think we’re going to continue to see the challenges with relation to sort of the commercial industry dumping into the into the black market, which is then causing, you know, an upset in the balance as it currently is, but I also don’t think we’ll see legalisation but I think we’ll continue to see professionalisation the market has changed since, I think it’s nearly been, it’s been like four years now, September 2018. Nearly one that’s quite a long time, you know, so, I think we’ll continue to desist to see the professional get more professional and, you know, the unprofessional realise that this is a professional industry, either up your game or die out. And if all of that professionalisation can come across in, you know, the production side in the, you know, the club scene in the section 20 ones, then hopefully, like Andy said, we’ll get to see something, but, you know, besides that, I think also continue To see that people need to, you know that home growing still have massive and there’s still going to be a huge market for it. And if you weren’t interested in this industry and you want to learn, you know, there are multiple ways to get involved either growing yourself just to start to learn about the plant, which is beautiful, or just continue to try and get the correct information. So I also have to see far more sort of information and the correct information being shared next year. And hopefully more people start to create, create a bit of content as well. We saw one or two complaints come online this year. So I hope we see a few more next year as well. And that’s kind of what I would predict to see because it is still a fun space. It’s still professional, and we will get there eventually. It’s just about staying positive. I suppose in a difficult country, just

Andy
the guys watching at home. Big cheers to 2023 Make sure you let us know your thoughts about 2023 and cannabis space in the comments below. And we look forward to seeing you guys next week. Cheers guys. Peace guys.